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title: "Episode 2: Ilya Volodarsky and Nicolas Vandenberghe | B2B Category Creators Podcast"
url: https://metadata.io/resources/podcasts/b2b-category-creators/episode-2-ilya-volodarsky-and-nicolas-vandenberghe
description: "Ilya Volodarsky (President, Segment) and Nicolas Vandenberghe (CEO, Chili Piper) discuss CDP creation, category naming, and infusing humanity into business on the B2B Category Creators podcast."
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In our second episode, Gil has an enlightening discussion with two more successful CEOs who each were instrumental in creating massive software categories: Customer Data Platform (CDP) and Revenue Acceleration!

Panelists for this episode include:

- Ilya Volodarsky – President of Segment and instrumental in creating the CDP category
- Nicolas Vandenberghe – CEO of Chili Piper and orchestrator of the Revenue Acceleration Platform category

## Or watch the video

You’ll walk away from this episode learning…

- How the original idea for Segment was in the education-tech space
- Why Chili Piper thought their category name should be Buyer Enablement, and
- How to infuse real humanity into your business while staying focused on growth.

**BONUS!**

You can also play “six degrees of separation from Guillaume Cabane” to see how he’s a common thread in all of these stories!